Clan timeline | suggestions/planning

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Clan timeline | suggestions/planning

A topic to discuss about style and information content of the time line ...

\"Virtue is its own reward.\"

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OK first of all tell me what you want in the time line no matter how much work it is XD ...

Should be in:

Every incisive event ... founding date, live ops etc.
Every joining/leaving date of every member

Could be in:

Day of specific members promotion

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In addition a few information I would like to know:

Why did Random and Coop joined before the clan founding date ?

Which of the active members rejoined the clan and when?

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Would you please add any member you know not standing on that list:

SAS_Adze
SAS_Agent
SAS_Aussie
SAS_Blade
SAS_Blaegis
SAS_Boone
SAS_BrokenFrame
SAS_Bronco
SAS_Busta
SAS_Calm
SAS_Cappy a.k.a. SAS_Capellan
SAS_Centurion
SAS_Cobra
SAS_Coop
SAS_Count
SAS_Dact
SAS_Dave
SAS_Delta
SAS_DM
SAS_Donk
SAS_Elite
SAS_En4cer
SAS_Fang a.k.a. WhiteFang
SAS_Flank
SAS_Fury
SAS_Fritz
SAS_Frumpus
SAS_Ghost
SAS_Glock
SAS_Hawkeye
SAS_Heim
SAS_Hexen
SAS_Hollow
SAS_Hunk
SAS_IceMan
SAS_Ironman
SAS_J2C
SAS_Jakub
SAS_James
SAS_Jay
SAS_JB
SAS_Jedi
SAS_Jso
SAS_King
SAS_Leon
SAS_leon_
SAS_Mamal
SAS_Mando
SAS_Marine
SAS_Merge
SAS_Midget
SAS_Miles
SAS_Mist
SAS_Moebius
SAS_Mugzy
SAS_Noah
SAS_Noer
SAS_One
SAS_Owned
SAS_Pandora
SAS_Python
SAS_qwerty
SAS_Raiden
SAS_Rand
SAS_Random
SAS_Raptis
SAS_Rasa
SAS_Ratmike
SAS_Recon
SAS_Relish
SAS_Rob
SAS_Robbo
SAS_Rouge
SAS_Sci a.k.a. SAS_Scissor
SAS_Setari
SAS_Shadow
SAS_Shield
SAS_Sinister
SAS_Six_Marbles
SAS_Smart a.k.a. SAS_Agent
SAS_Spets
SAS_Spidey
SAS_Srt
SAS_Tango
SAS_TanMan
SAS_Taris
SAS_Terran
SAS_Tha-Pro
SAS_TheW
SAS_Thou
SAS_TiGeR
SAS_Trig
SAS_Viper
SAS_Warhawk
SAS_Weasel a.k.a. SAS_Sniper
SAS_Wiz
SAS_ZX9

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\"Virtue is its own reward.\"

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lots of those never made it past the Rct stage, so therefore were not actually members.
Yes Sinister(RIP) and Jakub hailed from Australia.

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You like to torture Rcruits/me, huh? ......... ok I gonna dig out the Trooper dates XD ...

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Jakub could probably help you a lot, as well as Random. Email them for advice

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They got the Trooper dates / They kept an account of the Members ?

In addition I already note to email/talk to some members ....

\"Virtue is its own reward.\"

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I think activity dates for each member is just a little to much information. In my opinion, it would be better to keep the timeline simpler and short.

Interesting information might be when the clan was founded and who are the founding members. When was GCHQ permanently established. When was first member recruited. When was first promotion. When did the clan adopt Swat as a game. When were Live-ops, when was Sabre Squad started. When was website started or redone. When was CO leadership change... When was relationship with WT clan start. Were their any tournaments of competitions that SAS particiapted in...

These are some examples of what I would put on the timeline.

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They got the Trooper dates / They kept an account of the Members ?

In addition I already note to email/talk to some members ....

Don't think Random or Jakub has writen down any trooper dates, but they can defiantly help you out whit some clan history.

Random x-fire: sasvetrandom

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***UPDATED***

SAS Member:
SAS Veteran:
Former SAS:
Recruit:
Not sure:

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SAS_Adze
SAS_Aussie
SAS_Blade
SAS_Blaegis
SAS_Boone
SAS_Bronco
SAS_BrokenFrame
SAS_Busta
SAS_Calm
SAS_Cappy a.k.a SAS_Capellan
SAS_Centurion
SAS_Cobra
SAS_Coop
SAS_Count
SAS_Dact
SAS_Dave
SAS_Delta1
SAS_DM
SAS_Donk
SAS_Elite
SAS_En4cer
SAS_Fang a.k.a WhiteFang
SAS_Flank
SAS_Fury
SAS_Fritz
SAS_Frumpus
SAS_Ghost
SAS_Glock
SAS_Hawkeye
SAS_Heim
SAS_Hexen
SAS_Hollow
SAS_Hunk
SAS_IceMan
SAS_Ironman
SAS_J2C
SAS_Jakub
SAS_James
SAS_Jay
SAS_JB
SAS_Jedi
SAS_Jso
SAS_King
SAS_Leon
SAS_Leon (2)
SAS_Mamal
SAS_Mando
SAS_Marine
SAS_Merge
SAS_Midget
SAS_Miles
SAS_Mist
SAS_Moebius
SAS_Mugzy
SAS_Noah
SAS_Noer
SAS_One
SAS_Owned
SAS_Pandora
SAS_Python
SAS_Qwerty
SAS_Raiden
SAS_Rand
SAS_Random
SAS_Raptis
SAS_Rasa
SAS_Ratmike
SAS_Recon
SAS_Relish
SAS_Rob
SAS_Robbo
SAS_Rouge
SAS_Sci a.k.a SAS_Scissors
SAS_Setari
SAS_Shadows
SAS_Shield
SAS_Sinister (R.I.P)
SAS_Six_Marbles
SAS_Smart a.k.a SAS_Agent (Founder)
SAS_Spets
SAS_Spidey01
SAS_Srt
SAS_Tango
SAS_TanMan
SAS_Taris
SAS_Terran
SAS_Tha-Pro
SAS_TheW
SAS_Thou
SAS_TiGeR
SAS_Trig
SAS_Viper
SAS_Warhawk
SAS_Weasel a.k.a SAS_Sniper
SAS_Wiz
SAS_ZX9

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I can make a few updates to that.

BrokenFrame and Smart are the same person I believe.

Capellan (same as Cappy) was in for ages, he should be blue.

Fang was a Trooper, but for less than a year. Should be yellow.

At least one, maybe both, of Rob and Robbo were Trp. Can't remember exactly, but they are two different people. One of them is Sniper's brother.

I remember Terran left under difficult circumstances, I think he was only a Rct and not a member but I am not 100% on that.

People who were definitely members:
Sci (short for scissors wasn't it?)
Elite
Delta
Agent
Tango
Sniper

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I can make a few updates to that.

BrokenFrame and Smart are the same person I believe.

Can anyone else clearify this?

Capellan (same as Cappy) was in for ages, he should be blue.

Copy.

Fang was a Trooper, but for less than a year. Should be yellow.

Well my memory is not that good then.

At least one, maybe both, of Rob and Robbo were Trp. Can't remember exactly, but they are two different people. One of them is Sniper's brother.

I'm almost sure that Rob was only recruit.. Does the name WindTalker ring any bell? I think they where the same person, I might be wrong.

I remember Terran left under difficult circumstances, I think he was only a Rct and not a member but I am not 100% on that.

Yes he didnt pass

People who were definitely members:
Sci (short for scissors wasn't it?)
Elite
Delta
Agent
Tango
Sniper

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All I know of the membership before I found the [SAS] servers, and the various forum notes is what I've seen here: http://www.v1.sasclan.org/members.php

I think Jso has a very good point.

Also I'm sure James would know for sure, but arn't (or were at some point) the dates when they were added to the Mighty page not tryout dates.

For example The Mighty page says I've been in the SAS since Aug 20, 2005. Yet if you see the post by Wiz stating I had passed my Rct Tryout, it is dated: Aug 06, 2005. My 2nd trooper tryout took place 1 month and 8 days later..

So The Mighty pages cannot be counted on for exact dates Miles.

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That's why I mentionted that your accountancy is a bit like a nightmare XD

I have to check most of the dates twice XD

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Hollow was a Cpl, and Raptis was LCpl too, Bronco quit months ago.

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All I know of the membership before I found the [SAS] servers, and the various forum notes is what I've seen here: http://www.v1.sasclan.org/members.php

Nice find. We now know that Agent was the founder.

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Hollow was a Cpl, and Raptis was LCpl too, Bronco quit months ago.

yes I know, look they are already added.

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they are added as being less than 1 year. And Bronco shouldnt even be on the mighty page, as he handed his tags in and joined another clan

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Actually this topic should be there to discuss and tell me what should be in the time line ... this Vet discussion and who was how long in the clan is kinda interesting, too ... but it doesn't really help me XD

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Miles -- a good project. You are fitting into the role of the clan's Protocol Officer... :glasses:

Maybe you can reach some of the founders by mail, and ask them to tell about the very first SAS-days...

This sounds like an idea for a downloadable booklet...

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Rob was Sniper/Weasel's brother. He was only ever a recruit and later changed his name to WindTalker. Note: Sniper and Weasel are the same person. He changed his name from Sniper to Weasel.

Robbo was also only ever a recruit. Different person.

Recon: That old SAS site has been posted on the home page for ages. It's in one of the news stories.

Sci was also definitely short for Scissors, so that was the same person.

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Rob was Sniper/Weasel's brother. He was only ever a recruit and later changed his name to WindTalker.
My memory is not that bad then Blum 3

Note: Sniper and Weasel are the same person. He changed his name from Sniper to Weasel.
Copy.

Robbo was also only ever a recruit. Different person.
Yeah I thought so too.

Recon: That old SAS site has been posted on the home page for ages. It's in one of the news stories.
O'righty, pretty nice site btw.

Sci was also definitely short for Scissors, so that was the same person.
Copy

BTW.. SAS_Fang was also known as WhiteFang right?

We just need to clearify the last "Not Sure" guys, and we need to know if SAS_Agent is former SAS_Smart.

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WhiteFang was just his name before he was in SAS. SAS_Fang was his name while he was in the clan.

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Yes ... SAS_Agent = SAS_Smart ...

http://www.sasclan.org/modules.php?name=Forums&file=viewtopic&t=2588
(first post of Random)

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In that case BrokenFrame must be someone else.

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I just noticed the foundation date and some other choice details on the About [SAS] page.

March 28th 2001

There is also a nice quote from Smart.

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i tried really hard to stay away from this topic but just couldnt. so many memories. i may have only been here for 2.5 yrs, but i know most of the names and should be able to clarify any questions that anyone has. what i dont understand is how you all got some of this information. as being one of the few that has read the entire archives and done a list of names of who was who long ago remember many of these names along with names that are not on there as well. ive been skimming through and have seen many questions previously answered most correct some not correct. if a new list could be written up ill take a look at it and answer it.

about how coop and random are older is either a one yr clerical error other then that is beyond me and will have to ask them.

something also bothering me there is Leon (old) and then there is not leon 2 but leon_ (new uses underscore)

oh one more thing to my knowledge (i did this too) Smart and brokenframe are not the same person and are two different people.

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I think if ou wanted to do this properly you would been access to the archives.

Is the old site still archived somewhere as well?

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I have been looking through a lot of the past posts in the forum and i have found that this clan is very deeply steeped in history.

I hope SAS_Miles, that you are continuing to pursue this as i believe it is very important for this clan. It is strange and fascinating to see how this clan developed throughout time and even though on the brink of collapse was kept alive and has flourished into what you see today.

As for what to include, i would like to see a mention for every member of this clan, if not Rct's then most certainly Trp's. They should not be allowed to be forgotten.

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Well ... I'm doing what I can ... we'll see what comes out ...

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Although nice Hexen, its too big to include i feel. Theres been hundreds of Trooper tryouts, even in my 18 months here.

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i think he is refering to the people that have come and gone that reached the rank of trp and not the actual tryouts.

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