what would you like to see in a possible SWAT 5?

yes, To NOT let SAS_Lake play this game

naw, for real, I'm liking the ideas, especially the Roping idea

oh yea, I would like to add one more thing...

This
http://www.sasclan.org/modules.php?name=Forums&file=viewtopic&t=7663

Yes guys....I'm Serious

All of you are like, wth r u thinking Big12???

well let me explain...
There's this SSM we all know as Rasa...well at times, us Swat guys, move too slow for Rasa on some missions, so I've planned this to help those of us out

Have fun w/ the future invention of Swat5, hope yall like the quirks

Oh yeah. Re-new everything, I would say. The ones that made SWAT4 must not lay their hand on the SWAT5 project

- A new graphics engine.
- More freedom. For instance being a sniper and be able to control the sniper (walk/run) and find a decent vantage point around the hostage area.
- More realistic SWAT uniforms that actually looks like real life SWAT.
- Remove the space helmet from SWAT4, and replace it with a SWAT helmet
- New weapon model and how the weapons behave + sounds. The current in SWAT4 is just horrible.
- A planning map you can draw on.

I would have to write up my list in a separate file....

I always thought Big was the humanshield LOL
I like the hammer thing, plus I think I would like more entry stuff. I have always liked the idea of driving a land rover into a wall, then entering and yes it is a used SAS technique!
SAS_Rct_Jonsi

i think the most important thing should be:

THE DAMAGE MODEL!

drop the graphic (because if that would be important you must burry RvS)!
drop the special entry methods!

If I make a headshot on a tango..he must drop instantly...or If I shoot him in the leg he must eb gimped instantly....

The damage model is the biggest problem in this game.

2nd: The area model:
Its just horribel that people ont recognise you or are not effected because they are in a new programming area.

Thats what should be changed at first place...

The rest..just goodies, but of course nice to have.

uhm..

a railgun

a nuke

a transformer

+ a couple of power rangers!

My personal list - although most has been said:
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- windows- and wall-breaching (anywhere, anytime)
- ceiling-breach (see movie "Delta Force" (part I))
- abseiling
- most stuff like in SSF-MOD (especially amount of weapons)
- open areas like in Canadian-Direct-Action-MOD
- damage-model (Gas-masks are no "helmet"; shotgun-round at close-range has always powerful results)
- faster draw of secondary
- switching back automatically to primary after tacaid-use
- more realistic tacaids (stunn-effect)
- more random in tango-spawn
- more realistic civilian-behaviour
- selection of 2nd in command before mission starts
- tangos can setup booby-traps
- single-shot and burst on all primaries; tac-lights and silencers available for all weapons (if realistic)
- tangos can shoot through doors
- tangos can use fragmentation-grenades
- no quickdraw and no super-tangos
- good story-mode in single-player
- more agressive KI on SWAT-side in single-player (see SSF-MOD)

DUKE, Germany

http://sas-spidey01.livejournal.com/184288.html

my list, just things off the top of my head lol.

What I want from every game............that it will run on a PIII laptop with no video card and 192Mb DRAM.

2nd: The area model:
Its just horribel that people ont recognise you or are not effected because they are in a new programming area.

Thats what should be changed at first place...

The rest..just goodies, but of course nice to have.

I believe you are refering to the "zoning" on the maps. Keep in mind Timbo if they got rid of the zoning feature on maps they would lag horribly and alot of funtions (ambient sound etc.) would not work correctly. Come to think of it lag is still there With zoning but it's alot better than Without.

As for features in SWAT 5:

(1) Blowing in windows with C2 charges as Lake said.
(2) Aggresive Arrests (or "forced arrest") as in SSF & ARPD mods.
(3) Rappeling down sides of buildings and landing on balconies/swinging feet-first through windows (smashing the glass or if there is none simply entering).
(4) Drive a giant sledge through a wall and surprise the tangos by entering where there were no doors, also the sledge hammer to knock down doors as Lake mentioned would be great.
(5) Ability to share ammo and pick up enemy weapons. (We wouldn't constantly pick up enemy weapons although it would be useful when your primary suddenly runs out of ammunition and there's an enemy AK-47 at your feet).

This is all I can think of at the moment. 8O

no Chester...youa re completly wrong:

zoning models are programmed areas. So its pretty simple to programm the areas to specific areas or modulate the maps so that the rooms fit into those areas...

What I want from every game............that it will run on a PIII laptop with no video card and 192Mb DRAM.

In about ~5 years there will be cell phones with more then 192MB of memory. While already in the computing world... If you've got 192MB of memory and no decent graphics card, you best have something light weight for your desktop interface: if you want to avoid swapping while using common programs. Especially if your GPU is onboard and uses shared memory!!!

A later model Pentium III or one of the Pentium M chips are more then powerful for most tasks when coupled with a graphics card, the problem is memory.

Most laptops were not designed with the games of the generation after them in mind.

Didn't say I expected it, Spidey, but I can want, lol. Actually I buy old games to play on the laptop....which runs XP Pro Enterprise version and Office. But, for $75 I can't bitch.

'cuse me then.

Heh, I'm in the same boat, with wanting to take the last windows machine off my network, and still be able to play SWAT lol.

Is this actually gonna happen? Swat 5? i heard that they decided not to?

The odds of SWAT5... are about on par with the release of Rainbow Six 6: The game we prayed for and got Letdown.

Unless you got a couple million bucks to do it?

I have a chat with my Bank Manager bout a loan on Monday!

Will get back to ya

i agree with all of u but i would also like more realistic tac aids and effects, the ability to add stuff to ur wep like in rvs u guys said most if not all of wat i would want

The hit models, more realistic guns with ironsights and no crosshairs, flashlights that let you aim and maps that have a surrounding.

Not gonna happen tough. SWAT's license is lost to some company who isn't interested anymore.

In swat 5 Hmmm

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sZ3kL61y0D0

DUEL RIFLES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

lol

I'd like an Equip screen, where you can see what your teammebers are getting equipped with (similar to single-player-mode, but with the exception that you can actually choose the team's loadout in singleplayer)

So you can have an eye on someone who isn't going to equip the proper Loadout/ Remind him to do so.

I would like if the units could Jump (walls, etc), the "need backup" buttom more easy and more maps like on swat 3

In swat 5 Hmmm

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sZ3kL61y0D0

DUEL RIFLES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Id go for the 249 option myself

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X4nfZu8VqgQ

A Good Addition for Swat 5 Would be the
HK XM8 Carbine Rifle

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GfbUdQLXn1A

it just Totally Pwns

Oh well, really old topic...

We had an interesting chat about a possible SWAT 5 - feel free to post your ideas.

Someone told me if we reach 5.555 views, then it won't take long for a "SWAT 5 - THE DARKSIDE" release...

DUKE, Germany

well i pitched the valve idea, i think valve would make a great tacfps.