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Vista bucks?

Saw this posted some where.

http://blogs.zdnet.com/Bott/?p=124

It's to do with prices on vista, didn't read it as I'm not upgrading.

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software that people pay for??

What is that?, i dont understand, sounds weird to me

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When you buy most PC's the price of Windows is usually included in the price tag. Vendors usually have a kai-OEM install disk that includes system specific drives e.t.c. I think, but think for "off the rack" price tags for current Windows XP, see this page for a guess

I like my software Free as in Free Beer and Free as in Free Speech at the same time.

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Link didn't work for me. I've only just put on XP, after using the rock solid 2000. Piece of crap messed up my computer proper bad n all, so I had to format the bastard. Sheesh.

If the link is what I think it might be about, I thought amazon.com had already released the prices for Vista upgrades and such.

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Its from August 28, 2006

Update: Amazon now has retail prices for Vista, as well as a projected release date. Details here.

It looks like Microsoft has accidentally leaked some details of the price of its next-generation operating system. At least for customers who live in the Great Frozen North.

The Retail Pricing page at Microsoft Canada lets you choose a product name from a dropdown list and see the current pricing. Surprise! It includes a slew of SKUs for Windows Vista. (Update 28-Aug 8:00AM PDT: Well, that was fast! The Canadian price list I viewed earlier this morning appears to have been taken down, probably to remove the Vista SKUs. That makes the information even more interesting. Oh, and be sure to see my note at the end of this post on the pitfalls of using currency conversions to compare prices in different markets.) The following prices are all in Canadian dollars, and for comparison's sake I've included the retail prices of current versions of Windows XP:

FULL versions (all prices Canadian)

Windows Vista Ultimate $499

Windows XP Professional w/SP2 $429

Windows Vista Business $379

Windows Vista Home Premium $299

Windows Vista Home Basic $259

Windows XP Home w/SP2 $259

UPGRADE versions (all prices Canadian)

Windows Vista Ultimate Upgrade $299

Windows XP Professional w/SP2 Upgrade $259

Windows Vista Business Upgrade $249

Windows Vista Home Premium Upgrade $199

Windows Vista Home Basic Upgrade $129

Windows XP Home w/SP2 Upgrade $129

In Canada, at least, the rumors of a "modest" price increase were true, based on this list. Will these same relative prices hold true in the U.S.? Who knows? But if they do, then it's mostly good news for Windows customers. There's no price increase for Home Basic. Home Premium, the Vista version that maps most closely to the OEM-only Windows XP Media Center Edition, will finally be available as a retail product for a slight bump over the Home Basic product, similar to the $39 premium typically charged by large OEMs for Media Center upgrades. And Vista Business buyers will get a break with a small discount relative to XP Professional.

Based on current U.S. prices (which I wrote about last week), I would expect Windows Vista to sell in the U.S. for the following prices (full/upgrade):

Windows Vista Ultimate $349/$199

Windows Vista Business $269/179

Windows Vista Home Premium $239/$139

Windows Vista Home Basic $199/$99

Of course, these are guesses only. Some discounts will probably be available in the retail channel. OEM prices will, of course, be significantly lower. And I expect Microsoft to offer some enticing promotions when Windows Vista ships to encourage early adoption.

Update 8:55AM PDT: I notice some folks discussing this issue elsewhere are making a common mistake and simply converting the Canadian prices into U.S. dollars at current exchange rates. The two markets don't work that way. You'll get a much more accurate picture by doing what I've done here, which is to compare the relative prices of the new Vista versions to current XP versions and then make similar adjustments to the U.S. price list. You can do the same with other countries as well.

Update 1:55PM PDT: Hey, Gizmodo! You really, really, really need to read all the way to the end of the post. The prices you quote are just flat wrong. If converting those prices from CAD to USD is really a valid technique, why doesn't it work for Windows XP? Hmmm? I mean, Windows XP Home costs $259CAD, so us folks down south of the Canadian border must be paying $232 per copy, right? Oh, wait. The actual retail price is $199? Like I said, the two markets don't work that way.

Update 3:45PM PDT: Fellow ZDNet blogger Adrian Kingsley-Hughes got this official non-denial denial from a Microsoft spokesperson: "Microsoft inadvertently posted Windows Vista Canadian retail prices on their Web site, and the information has since been removed. There is no new pricing information to share currently but we plan to announce Windows Vista U.S. pricing when we ship Windows Vista RC1, later this quarter." All righty, then.

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Why does vista seem so familiar to me? Oh right, it's actually an XP clone.

It's faster they sais in my comp magasine: hell ye, by starting up programs before you even click them!

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Vista is not an XP Clone.

The TCP/IP
network stack for vista is a rewrite
It's also more into IPv6 support then Windows XP.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Internet_Protocol

IPv6 is the future, still good ways off in replacing IPv4 in common usage.

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Ok, here's the deal: ipv6... who cares? It's like changing the number on the license plates of cars. Noteworthy but not a great new asset. I just means there can be more cars.

To me, and to most ppl I know Vista is just gonna be the same things as XP. I don't care if it's TCP Ip stack is rewritten... Because I'll never clearly see that in action.

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What? Your still running Windows 1.0 and don't have an internet connection at home yet !?

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The current TCP ip code suits me fine.

All Vista is, is just one of Microsoft's money-making schemes.

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Just save yourself the argument and buy a Mac.

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or just carry on using XP.
or just get a cracked copy

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My intention is to use Vista for gaming when I upgrade to a new PC, assuming I can't buy a copy of XP Pro by then.

PC-BSD all the way for the rest of computing Smile Free speech and free beer all in one operating system.

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Free speech and free beer all in one operating system.

Hang on..woah i use BSD. Does that mean im owed beer?. Spidey you are demoted for not telling me sooner. :devil: :devil: :devil:

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What's the point of having 2 OSes to do stuff? Isn't an OS supposed to do everything you want with it?

I damn you microsoft, for such a weird concept of Windows 2000, XP, XP¨service packs, Vista, Vista rip you off some more, Windows RO....

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Windows and Internet Explorer is all you need :smile:.

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And a Virus Blum 3

Actually I've only seen one virus in 5-6years. The reason I use Windows is that most games use DirectX from Micosoft. The equal of DirectX is OpenGL and Quake 4 which has some SWEET gfx uses SDL/OpenGL. Quake aslo runs on Windows/Linux/BSD. DirectX 10 won't even run on Windows XP as far as I know so gamers will need to upgrade to Vista later on.

The term "Free software" refers to Freedom to use the software how ever you want, including modifing it to meet your needs and giving it to others for free or a fee with source. It doesn't mean it has to be Free as in $$ though. Freeware is free as in $$$ but you can't do any thing with the program but what the license says. PC-BSD is Free software as in it costs $0 inless you want to by a copy of disks via snail mail, and free software. Mozilla and Linux are examples of this

Free speech and free beer compared are a popular method of comparing two axioms of Freedom in software Smile

Oh and Wiz I'm sure the people running that BSD server would enjoy a cold one on SysAdmin Day 2k7 Biggrin

BSD, Free for all purposes including beer drinking !

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Free software is all i do, atm its mainly GPL stuff for the site, but i got some cool toys on this baby

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Just don't spill the beer all over the motherboard :laugh:.