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Valroe
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US Military ads

Couple of fairly recent examples:

USAF: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fiB3vrhPDNs

USNG: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s-uPgIQFTNY

These commercials are a pleasure to watch and they are extremely well made.
What i don`t like about them though is that they make war look like a cool videogame or action film.

They basically present a totally non realistic view on the military, and gives american youth a wrong image of how their service actually will be.

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Propaganda.....

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Ads are very well done (and you are right wrt the realistic viewpoint of war and military service Valroe), and will probably achieve the goal of getting young people to sign up for the military and the war with unrealistic visions of what it would be like.

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The second one looks like a movie-trailer for the next blockbuster 8O

Professional and good made advertising - although it surely doesn't reflect the real day of a soldier out there - but well, which ad shows you the truth Question

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Professional and good made advertising - although it surely doesn't reflect the real day of a soldier out there - but well, which ad shows you the truth Question

Absolutely right Duke, which ad shows you the truth.... It's always harder to form ones own opinion about sth than just take it as given, but it's always worth doing. If one signs up to the military only because he found that ads kinda good, then i would consider him as simple minded. But maybe that is what they are looking for.... Which kinda leads me to the question how moral (or unmoral) it is to make ads like these.

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A good way to gain new troops but I think only a few of the new will have a chance to
participate in situations such as in the movies.

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Well, one accurate thing I guess the NG one shows, you will likely get cracked in the head sooner or later during training lol.

The ad looks more like a movie trailer then anything else IMHO. The US Military is never going to show the whole truth on television, let along in recruitment material, so it's not a surprise that it's made appealing rather then purely factual.

In my family, it's long been an SOP to "Never trust a thing the recruiter says", since I perhaps owe my existence to one, I find it ironic lol. My father was supposed to be stationed some where in Texas according to the recruiter, but instead ended up in south Florida.

For much of American youth, there are only two ways they have gotten close to war: fighting it out in gangland and playing video games. The latter of which, has very little connection to reality, and "Realistic military experience" in the virtual world, goes counter to most cultures.

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Professional made ads for sure and nice to look at.

They need more soldiers for the areas off the world where america is engaged. And if they show real duty with sweat, blood and death it will never bring enough new recruits.

It is up to everyone to realize the difference between advertising and reality.

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It is a well made advert

Like all advert they present F*** all about they are selling or are banging on about.

This is the recruitment video for my Regiment that we are still using even though it was made in 1998.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3rsbWT5eja0

Then after you are trained as a soldier you go into P company

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wVM1142RGKM&feature=related

Then you get to call yourself a paratrooper and get on the active duty roster

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r4ygXH5bx9E&feature=PlayList&p=526F4B2A47202377&index=0&playnext=1

PS Dont call me at work ! lol

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The National Guard ad reminded me of the movie Starship Troopers, where people who don't volunteer for military service aren't granted full citizenship. Just imagine what would be the next step if you watch the development of propaganda like that.

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The National Guard ad reminded me of the movie Starship Troopers, where people who don't volunteer for military service aren't granted full citizenship. Just imagine what would be the next step if you watch the development of propaganda like that.

Thats exactly what I thought the first time i saw it!

The USAF ad looks like Modern Warfare 2, and the USNG ad looks like Starship Troopers.

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I'm posting this comment on YouTube also, I bet it gets rejected.

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Write down as much information about the player that you can, and report it to the next SAS member you see.

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Just think of how they are recruited.

They are the National Guard basically civvies who want more action in their lives.

Weekend Warriors, or as i would prefer fodder.

This is the ideal image of what civvies have of the forces. Until they get called up and then they leave. After their college programs. Which is another thing to not get me started on.

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You can also login to the webbsite and use one of these forms.

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Just think of how they are recruited.

They are the National Guard basically civvies who want more action in their lives.

Weekend Warriors, or as i would prefer fodder.

This is the ideal image of what civvies have of the forces. Until they get called up and then they leave. After their college programs. Which is another thing to not get me started on.

So the British territorial army are just a group of retards?

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It says to me I cannot access that section.

Is the British Territorial Army the equivalent to the National Guard?

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Cool clips there with the fightin and all, I too think more troops are needed to help them out, Go in and completly overwhelm them.

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Well my experiences with the TAs have not been good. Lets leave it at that.

Yes National Guard and TAs the same.

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As I predicted, my comment got rejected.

I don't have first hand experience and I don't even know if there is something like the NG in Germany, but I don't like the mingling of humanitarian and military organisations, its too good a pretence to send armed forces in places they don't belong, like they do with the Bundeswehr, the German Army.

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It is professional, commercial advertising. US recruiting personnel get bonuses based on their enlistment numbers. Truth in advertising would show equal time of Veterans abandoned to minimal, inadequate care in Veteran Administration Hospitals for decades after they are wounded.

There is a phrase used in the US. PTVA. Post-Traumatic Veterans Administration. The mental affects of having to deal with the VA system to get deserved and needed care. One of my friends took me with him to hearings/appointments to control him if he lost it with their bullshit.

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PTVA, I like that nickname for it.